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INDEPENDENCE IN THE 1840'S
There was an abundance of activity in Jackson County in the 1840's as
various members of the COMBS', EVANS', HINDE'S move into the Independence,
Missouri area. Septimus SCHOLL wrote a letter to Rodney M. HINDE, Polly
(HINDE) COMBS brother, 3 JUL 1846 and described the community this way:
"Our country has been a place of rendezvous for the last several months.
There were several hundred Indians of the Sacks and Foxes passed up the
country last winter to their place of destination 160 miles above this.
There were from 300 to 500 wagons left this place for Oregon and California,
about the same number to Santa Fe, loaded with merchandise and they are
still a going notwithstanding the war with Mexico is still a raging. There
were 1,000 volunteers started from here a few days past for Santa Fe. It
looks like they intend to trade and fight at the same time. Some of the
wagons were loaded with arms and ammunition &c....Your brother James is
living near to where Silas Evans and Combs live" (Giulvezan, p. 18).
Located in Sibley, Missouri is a small cemetery which is just a few hundred
feet from the historic Fort Sibley, also known as Fort Osage. This well
manicured graveyard is bordered on three sides by walls. One of the walls
has a galvanized chain linked gate which allows for passage into the burial
ground. The fourth perimeter area lacks any sort of wall. In fact there is
an obvious two to three foot drop in the ground where a fourth wall would
stand if one had been constructed. This escarpment runs the entire length
of the cemetery. When an individual stands in the depression one can see
that it runs into a very densely vegetated area on one end, and around the
backside of Old Fort Sibley on the other. This deep groove in the ground is
the trail that was cut by the wagon wheels of those pioneers traveling on
the Santa Fe Trail.
"On a trail journey, the interior of a covered wagon was a woman's
province, and upon undertaking her duties as wagon housekeeper her first
reaction was usually astonishment over how much a wagon could hold. A
female observer describing a Conestoga (a type of wagon with broad wheels
for westward travel over the prairies) remarked that it had ‘eight holes cut
in the canvas on one side, and a child's face peeping out of every one of
the holes. Besides the children, it contained cats, dogs, beds, cooking
stove, tin pans and kettles'" (Brown, p.103).
On 6 December 1846 Septimus SCHOLL wrote Rodney M. HINDE and stated that "I
am of the opinion that we are located in one of the most promising points on
the river and general thoroughfare on the western frontier, and if we have
good health (which I flatter myself we will have) and can reconcile
ourselves to the climate, we can hardly fail to do well...We are here in ten
miles of the Indian Territory which is lined with their huts in their
natural dress and costume. There are Delawares, Pottawatomies, Shawnees,
Pawnees, Fox, Sioux, Haws, all within 100 miles of us. When I meet them
strolling over the country, it puts me in mind of the ancient tales of
Kentucky. I can hardly reconcile myself to treat them with civility when I
reflect how many of my near relation have suffered by them....I have tried
to reconcile my feelings to every class and condition as I meet them or as
they present themselves" (Giulvezan, p. 20).
"Our town of Independence is thronged at this time with soldiers, ten
companies of mounted volunteers are rendezvousing there for Mexico by way of
Santa Fe. Oxen, wagons, beef cattle bring fine prices and will continue to
do so until government gets supplied. A great many Santa Fe traders, Rocky
Mountain hunters, Oregon emigrants keep up a continuous buzz in town
(Giulvezan, p 22)....Daniel Boone has just returned from the plains with 27
(buffalo calves) - he took 30 milk cows and caught 35 young buffalo calves
and they suck the tame cows and in that way they bring them in fat"
(Giulvezan, p. 23).
Septimus SCHOLL also describes the living accommodations around the area of
Independence in 1844. He writes on 1 December the following::
"I have purchased one hundred and eight acres of land, one-half of which is
in a neat state of cultivation with a common log house shingled and stone
chimney with a good kitchen, smoke house, stable, corn crib, all new and
well put up, an apple orchard of 75 bearing trees of the best selected
fruit,...a delightful spring house and spring of never failing water in
about 40 yards from the door, and a laid way to the place. The spring house
is laid over with flat rock one-third of which is covered over by water as
clear as crystal about three inches deep....(The) 108 acres is a garden
spot, well timbered what is not cleared, with large linn, hackberry, black
walnut of a large size, with mulberry, pawpaws, and plums. The land is
situated 3 ˝ miles from Independence, a flourishing little town three miles
of the Missouri River. It is about six miles from the nearest place from my
place" (Giulvezan, p. 6).
In 1847 Septimus SCHOLL discusses a home being constructed by Silas EVANS:
Nelson, Marcus and Joseph have just returned from Saline (County, Missouri)
on a hunting expedition packed with venison where they met with Silas EVANS
which has got home on his hazard plow and is finishing off a frame and log
house and so much engaged that he only took one drive with them. The doctor
(Dr. Ennis COMBS) has also just returned and left all well. Silas C. (Silas
COMBS) has another heir, a daughter" (Giulvezan, p. 15) [see note 7].
It was not uncommon to be gone for long periods of time. In one letter it
was stated that they were absent for 100 days. The manner of travel varied
on these periods of absence. Septimus SCHOLL outlines the traveling
schedule from Clark County, Kentucky to Independence, Missouri, which was a
topic of discussion in a 1846 letter to Rodney M. HINDE:
"We were on the river 16 days and left the boat at the Arrow Rock (Arrow
Rock, Missouri) and got a carriage to take us out to Silas Evans (living in
Saline County at this time) where we sent for Nelson and Cyrus (in Jackson
County) which brought the carriage and horses and conveyed us home where we
found all as well as might be expected after so long an absence" (Giulvezan,
p. 19)[see note 8].
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From: "Michael R. Wilson" x-x-x-x-x-xmwilson@toto.net"><mwilson@toto.net>
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CONCLUSION:
Tell me and I will forget,
Show me and I might remember,
Involve me and I will understand
----------Chinese Proverb----------
We learn about things when we break them into smaller parts and analyze the
smaller segments. In 1735 Carl von Linne, a Swede, began classifying living
things. He put man into a genus category termed Homo, and the species
titled sapiens. He separated man from the other primates within the class
Mammalia. The reasoning for this separation was based on the premise that
man could reason. Man has the great gift of a developed brain. The brain
allows man to think and to reason. But this marvelous benefit must be
developed or there is a failure to communicate effectively.
Significance is forged through an appreciation and a building of ones
knowledge. We use many forms of expression to create meaning - art, music,
rituals, icons, and stories are just a few examples. There are many
families that make dinner a ritual, or center the activities with kin around
food. Specific times of the year are associated with specific foods,
preparations and presentations. These rituals create significance within
the family, as well as convey concepts about who they are.
There are also those families that employ "magnet art" as means of
expression. Magnet art is typically those crayon drawings that are attached
to the refrigerator door. After a period of time these works of art are
usually placed in storage, periodically retrieved and the moments relived in
private as the tears form in your eyes. If only those moments could be saved.
Stories are just as important as food, rituals, music and even magnet art.
They provide a means of developing the character, establishing what is right
or wrong, and teaching things that develop the soul (Proverb 1:1-7).
What we write is not nonsense. It is not lofty or impractical. The true
nonsense or impracticality is not understanding what hardships and
dedication that has preceded our existence. Dr. Evan Ennis COMBS lived in
an area that is almost void of his very presence, or the presence of his
family members. If this story is not told we loose a connection with the
magic - the enlightenment of the COMBS community.
Often it seems impossible to find the necessary information on which to
build a narrative. As ethical researchers one tries to find information
that suggests an obvious step-by-step approach to a valid conclusion. But
there are other times when one must use a surrogate to make a point about
the lives of family members.
On 19 OCT 1847 Septimus SCHOLL lost a son to measles. He wrote Rodney M.
HINDE about this experience which demonstrates the emotion of the family at
this time:
"Joseph was not here. He departed this life on the 27th of September of
measles. Oh God, give me fortitude to bear up under my loss. I cannot step
out of doors nor even raise my head but I see something Joe has had a hand
in doing or making, for he was a good obedient boy and an enterprising and
industrious, and there was little done only what he had a full share in
performing, in fact I see or hear but little but what places him full in my
imagination. But - he is not here. The sound of clarinet, the elder fife,
the wild geese, the brant (a small, black-necked wild goose), the prairie
hen has become almost death to me to hear them, they being his favorite
pursuits - laboring hard five days and a half in the week to get an
opportunity to spend a few hours a Saturday evening in his favorite sports,
for he was truly industrious. In losing of him I lost a staff and prop of
my latter days. Oh God, give me fortitude to bear up under such an
affliction and forgive me if I should regret an occurrence which I have no
control over, for the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed is the
name of the Lord. They buried him in the garden about 60 yards off the
house, dressed in a suit of black with gloves &c. On - his coffin covered
with black velvet and trimmed inside with white. The neighbors and friends
attended and aided in rendering the last services to a departed friend"
(Giulvezan, p. 23).
On 12 JAN 1848 Septimus SCHOLL wrote a second letter to Rodney M. HINDE
with a continuation of the death of his son, Joseph:
"When I got home I found our family in a condition which I leave you to
judge, having buried Joseph and little Peter (a very young slave boy that
was buried next to Joseph who died of measles) three weeks. What was here
was enjoying tolerable health, though most of them having had the measles.
Joseph was sick three weeks complaining as usual in cases of measles until a
few days before he died, being very little trouble only a few days, the
measles having fell on his bowels which Dr. Combs (Dr. Ennis COMBS) and
Caldwell could not check, both tending on him, but terminated in death in a
few days - very unexpected to his friends and acquaintances" (Giulvezan, p.
25).
It's not necessary to have a list of the COMBS', HINDE'S or EVANS' that
attended the services for Joseph SCHOLL. Most of them would have been
present at the burial. You can feel the grief in Septimus SCHOLL'S account
of his sons death. Special effort was taken by the family for his burial at
the end of the garden. Joseph SCHOLL does not appear on any burial list in
Jackson County, Missouri. In checking the area where the farm was located,
no monument could be located for either Joseph or Peter.
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NOTES:
1. Daryl Combs from San Pedro, CA provided me with his personnel COMBS data
base for Dr. Ennis COMBS in 1997. He has Mary "Polly" COMBS death as about
1838. I have no information that supports this date, but Daryl probably has
a document that may support this statement.
2. Ann CATLETT is believed to be the sister of Susan N. COMBS. Dr. D.
CATLETT is believed to be the brother of Susan N. COMBS. This is only
speculation since there is no documentation to support these assumptions.
3. Two sources show the birth date for Dr. Edward Mark COMBS as 7 FEB 1818.
The text Kentucky Cemetery Records, v. 1, page 117, line 9, by the Kentucky
Records Research Committee (1960) shows an incorrect date of 7 FEB 1848.
4. One source has Howard M. as a doctor, another source has James E. as a
doctor. One of them or both of them are medical professionals but a second
souce has not been obtained to verify the facts. The Musser Letters
contains a specific statement that James E. COMBS was a dentist.
5. Walker & Wilson have the date of marriage 24 NOV 1835. Boyd has the
marriage date as 25 NOV 1835. Used Bible records as best source at this time.
6. Williams & Williams have Mary CALDWELL as being deceased. This is in
error since she appears in the 1850 US Census in Montgomery County, Kentucky.
7. This child would be Mary S. COMBS based on date of letter and birth order.
8. All of the extraction from the SCHOLL letters were transcribed as they
were found in the original. No errors were corrected. Additional comments
are placed inside of parentheses and were not part of the original documents.
REFERENCES:
American Biographical Archives - James H. Combs (Microform). (1981).
"Comanc- Compton, I. Number 335. pp. 46-47. From a Memorial & Biographical
History of Northern California, 1981. Located in the Mid-Continent Public
Library, Genealogy & Local History, North Independence Branch, Highway 24
& Spring, Independence, Missouri 64050. Cabinet marked "American
Biographical Archive," drawer #4.
_________________________ - Fielding A. Combs (Microform). (1981). "Comanc-
Compton, I. Number 335. pp. 35-37. From a Memorial & Biographical History of
the counties of Fresno, Tulare, and Kern, California, 1992. Located in the
Mid- Continent Public Library, Genealogy & Local History, North Independence
Branch, Highway 24 & Spring, Independence, Missouri 64050. Cabinet marked
"American Biographical Archive," drawer #4.
Bolman, L.G. & Deal, T.E. (1995). Leading with Soul. San Francisco, CA:
Jossey-Bass Publishers.
Boyd, H.G. (March 1961). Some Marriages in Montgomery County, Kentucky
Before 1864. Kentucky Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution.
Brown, D. (1958). The Gentle Tamers - Women of the Old West. Lincoln, NB:
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Buchanan County Courthouse, Rock Port, Missouri. (6 DEC 1851). Deed Book H,
p. 245.
Combs &c. RootWeb Research Project. (19 APR 1998). Combs &c. Families of
Lafayette County, Missouri. Http://www.dragonfire.net/~combs/records/mo-
laf.htm.
Dodd, J.R. (1992). Missouri Marriages - 1826 to 1850. Bountiful, Utah:
Precision Indexing, Inc.
Edwards, J.N. (1996). Noted Guerrillas on the Warfare of the Border -
Guerrillas of the West. Shawnee, KS: Two Trails Publishing Company.
Elliston, M.W. (24 SEP 1895). Early Kentucky Newspapers. Statewide Deaths
from: The Mt. Sterling Advocate, Published 1891-1897, Montgomery County,
Kentucky. v. 1.
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won't go away. The Journal of the National Alliance of Black School
Educators, 2(1), 25- 31.
Fine, M. (FEB 1987). Silencing in Public Schools. Language Arts, 64(2), 157-174.
Giulvezan, I.S. (OCT 1959). A Collection of Letters Written by the Scholl
Family and their Kin (1836-1897). Transcribed by Isabel Stebbins
Giulvezan, 9525 Radio Drive, Afton, Missouri 63123-5534. Located in the
Jackson County Historical Society Research Library & Archives, Room 103,
Independence Square Court House, Independence, Missouri 64050
[816-252-7454]; file # A2824F5 Scholl, Septimus. 1789-1849 - Family
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Ham, M.V. (1988). The Hickman Family - Its Branches and Twigs, with Allied
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Independence Square Court House, Independence, Missouri 64050
[816-252-7454]; Family History Section.
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___________________________________________(22 MAR 1849). Deed Book O, p. 20.
___________________________________________(3 JUN 1853). Deed Book T, p. 436.
___________________________________________(9 APR 1858). Deed Book 26, p. 531.
___________________________________________(13 MAR 1860). Deed Book 36, p. 198.
___________________________________________(12 MAY 1860). Deed Book 35, p. 323.
___________________________________________(12 MAY 1862). Deed Book 36, p. 776.
___________________________________________(7 FEB 1870). Deed Book 71, p. 603.
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__________ (24 JUN 1998). COMBS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id:
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5, line 46.
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611B, lines 1-5.
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Contested 1866 Election
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1109 NE 97th Place
Kansas City, Missouri 64155
mwilson@toto.net
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From: Patience Northern x-x-x-x-x-xpashe@indy.net"><pashe@indy.net>
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Sharon Burnette wrote:
>
> Oops. Forgot to clarify that is for searching
> thru the Social Security Death Index at Ancestry
>
> >at http://www.ancestry.com/ssdi/advanced.htm
> >I did a Combs search in various states to see what I'd
> >find and thiis is what I found(under Combs & issued by each state):
> >Alabama 116 Combined matches
> >Alaska 9 Combined Matches
> >Arkansas 236 Combined Matches
> >Arizona 64 Combined Matches
> >California 652 Combined Matches
> >Colorado 103 Combined Matches
> >Connecticut 19 Combined Matches
> >Dist of Columbia 75 Combined Matches
> >Deleawre 11 "
> >Florida 223
> >Georgia 221
> >Hawaii 2
> >Idaho 37
> >Illinois 424
> >Indiana 525
> >Iowa 122
> >Kansas 180
> >Kentucky 2185
> >Louisiana 115
> >Maine 5
> >Maryland 141
> >Massachusetts 51
> >Michigan 279
> >Minnesota 50
> >Mississippi 87
> >Missouri 491
> >Montana 43
> >Nebraska 91
> >Nevada 12
> >New Hampshire 7
> >New Jersey 96
> >New Mexico 21
> >New York 407
> >North Carolina 498
> >North Dakota 11
> >Ohio 878
> >Oklahoma 431
> >Oregon 84
> >Pennsylvania 151
> >RR Retirement 79
> >Rhode Island 2
> >South Carolina 26
> >South Dakota 16
> >Tennessee 339
> >Texas 509
> >Utah 7
> >Virginia 491
> >Vermont 20
> >Washington 154
> >West Virginia 466
> >Wisconsin 64
> >Wyoming 16
> >
> >I had never realized how many Combs were in KY as
> >compared with the other states even New York.
> >I wonder why there were so many more Combs in
> >KY than any of the other states. CA ran second
> >with 652 & Kentucky had 2185. Kentucky had more
> >than 3 times that of any other state.
> >Does anyone know why?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Part of it would depend on whether they have combined the spelling of
Combs, Coomes, Coombes, etc. There are seperate families of Coomes and
Coombes in Ky who, at this point, are not related at all. Their
immigrants came in differant centuries. Some came directly from Md. and
some from Va. and NC. The migration pattern varies but Ky was over the
mountain - the WEST. My family came by wagon, to the train from Va. to
Indiana.
Patience
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To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
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Subject: [COMBS-L] Combs/Tolson information
In the Stafford county Courthouse in Deed Book NN, P. 430 Benjamin P. TOLSON
convery to Lyman KELLOGG all his interest inthe estate of his mother, Sythia
TOLSON, and grnadmother, Mary COMBS, which they held in dower from his
father, George H. TOLSON, and grandfahter, Joseph COMBS. (1845)
>From the Virginia Deed Book NN 1842-45
p. 430 28 January 1845 - February 1845
Benjamin P. TOlson to Lymon Kellogg all interest in the estate of mother
Sythia Tolson and Grandmother Mary Combs which they hold in dower from my
father Geor. H. Tolson and grandfather Joseph Combs. $60.
Deed Book OO 1845-1848 , Microfilm Reel 4
p. 157 28 February 1843- 9 November 1846
Benjamin P. Tolson and Prudnce his wife to Kenrick E. Combs for $45 land
bounded by the said Combs, John Shelkett, the Brentown Road on the north and
the "Mount Horeb tract and Ashby" on the East.
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To Michael R. Wilson,
I'm sure everyone will agree with me when I say that we are EXTREMELY
LUCKY to have you in our family!!!!
The story was wonderfully descriptive and I made my husband wait for his
dinner until I finished reading every word.
I both laughed and cried at different points and actually began to see in
my mind the areas in which these families lived.
Thank you so much for your hard work putting this together!
Anne B. Musser
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