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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:44:47, -0500
From: CONNIE L SHEETS x-x-x-x-x-xASWM99A@prodigy.com "><ASWM99A@prodigy.com >
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
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Nope. The city of Norfolk remains an independent city. Here is the full
statement from McGinnis:
"Geographically, Norfolk was located in Norfolk Co. until 1963, when
Norfolk Co. and the city of South Norfolk merged to form the city of
Chesapeake. Norfolk is adjacent to the independent cities of Chesapeake
and Portsmouth."
So, the way I understand it, if you want Norfolk COUNTY records you go
to Chesapeake. If you want Norfolk CITY records you go to Norfolk. If
you want South Norfolk CITY records you go to Chesapeake.
WOW! You're fast with that one arm cut and pasting to get stuff onto
the web!
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(3) Re the following cities, Connie wrote:
Chesapeake: Became city 1963. The City of South Norfolk and Norfolk Co
. became extinct when the City of Chesapeake was created. Records begin
1637.
Norfolk: Established 1680, became city 1845. Norfolk Co. Records
begin 1761.
CH: Does this meant that the City of Norfolk is also now in the City of
Chesapeake? Or that the City of South Norfolk was in Norfolk County
instead of "and" Norfolk County? <g>
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 13:17:23 -0500
From: "B. Rivas" x-x-x-x-x-xsayona@telepath.com"><sayona@telepath.com>
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
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> Those could go a long ways toward settling several questions abt the HARDING Family, although never far enough, right? (We are just _never_
> satisfied on this list <VBG>)
Carole
The Harden/Hardin/Harding group are just as tangled, numerous, and hard to find as the Combs. *grin* - I've been stuck on my George Hardin
forever.
Barbara Rivas
sayona@telepath.com
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5455/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/8595/
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:17:22, -0500
From: CONNIE L SHEETS x-x-x-x-x-xASWM99A@prodigy.com "><ASWM99A@prodigy.com >
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
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Subject: [COMBS-L] SC Bennett COMBS & Thomas SHIRLEY
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I've been thinking about the seemingly low price that Bennett COMBS paid
Thomas SHIRLEY for his 640 acres in Pendleton Co.
I've never seen anything (else) to suggest these two families might be
related, but suspect we need to leave no stone unturned. As a way of
getting the ball rolling, let me provide the following info about Thomas
SHIRLEY. First, I must caution that I have done very little direct
research on the SHIRLEY family in SC, and none in VA: I'm still stuck
in southern IL and Barren Co KY trying to connect my earliest proven
SHIRLEY ancestor, Moses, to this group (he surely is, but exactly how
can only be surmised).
That said, it appears likely that the Thomas SHIRLEY who sold land to
Bennett COMBS is the same Thomas SHIRLEY whose wife was Mary "Mollie"
GRUBBS and who later settled in Barren Co KY. Records of Broad Run
Baptist Church in Fauquier Co VA and Turkey Creek Baptist Church in Old
Ninety Six District (now Abbeville) SC indicate he was part of the group
of SHIRLEYs who migrated from VA to SC ca. 1783 to 1785. Bennett COMBS
land in Pendleton is not far from Turkey Creek Church, and the PUTMAN
family were associated with Turkey Creek.
Apparently, this SHIRLEY family lived in VA in the area where Fauquier
and Prince William Cos. meet. There were also SHIRLEYs in
Northumberland and Culpeper Cos. who may be related. I've also seen
claims they were somehow related to SHIRLEYs in St. Mary's Co MD but
have never seen any evidence of this.
Some surnames allied with this SHIRLEY family in VA and SC include:
SMITH, HOLTZCLAW, HUGHES, CULLINS, GREEN, MITCHELL, and BARMORE to name
a few.
Information about this group, including in some cases record abstracts,
can be found on the following places on the web:
www.shirleyassociation.com/Virginia.htm
www.shirleyassociation.com/thomas_shirley.htm
www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8505/county.html
I'd sure appreciate it if some of you knowledgable about and interested
in COMBS in the geographical areas mentioned above would take a look and
let me know if you see any clues, particularly in allied surnames.
WARNING: You must take with a grain of salt virtually everything you
see on the Shirley Association pages; the lady who heads this
organization is a wonderful person and has collected a lot of SHIRLEY
info, but is not adept at research or citing her sources. I have found
many errors in her work. (Example: her web page for my ancestor Moses
SHIRLEY m. Jerusha HANCOCK (son of Moses SHIRLEY and Nancy DALE) lists
a child born 3 years before their marriage and lists me and two of my
cousins as her sources; I've never seen any evidence of the existence of
this child except in her publications; I know she didn't get the info
from me and at least one of the other cousins cited, and I doubt she got
it from the 3rd one as he got most of his info from us....) Use Shirley
Association material as possible clues only.
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From: "B. Rivas" x-x-x-x-x-xsayona@telepath.com"><sayona@telepath.com>
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
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Perhaps this has no connection or interest, but in the Pension
Application for my George Hardin, b. 1756 in Loudoun Co. VA, he states
that when he was again drafted into the militia in the month of January
1779 for an 18 months service, he exchanged with a tweleve months
militia man, giving him one hundred & fifty dollars to boot. The name
of this man with whom he exchanged was Wm. GEORGE. He was living in
Winchester, Frederick Co., VA at that time.
Barbara Rivas
sayona@telepath.com
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:05:12 EDT
From: x-x-x-x-x-xBelohou@aol.com"><Belohou@aol.com>
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Hello Carole,
According to A Back Family History: The Story of a Major Branch of the
Back/Bach Family, by Custer, Kenneth, and Troy Back and Dexter Dixon,
published in 1994, Richard COMBS was born 18 March 1820 and died 27 January
1887 in Mt. Sterling, KY. Mary BACK, the daughter of Joseph BACK and Permelia
HOGG, was born 6 February 1823 and died 26 January 1914 in Oklahoma.
I hope this helps.
Bev Houghtling
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Hello Carole,
According to A Back Family History: The Story of a Major Branch of the
Back/Bach Family, by Custer, Kenneth, and Troy Back and Dexter Dixon,
published in 1994, Richard COMBS was born 18 March 1820 and died 27 January
1887 in Mt. Sterling, KY. Mary BACK, the daughter of Joseph BACK and Permelia
HOGG, was born 6 February 1823 and died 26 January 1914 in Oklahoma.
I hope this helps.
Bev Houghtling
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:06:32 EDT
From: Matthew C Combs x-x-x-x-x-xmatt_combs@juno.com "><matt_combs@juno.com >
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19980906.230050.2671.1.matt_combs@juno.com>
Subject: [COMBS-L] Re: Jackson County, WV Lookup
Forwarding some information I got about my COMBS relatives. Is anybody
familiar with the William COMBS who reportedly arrived in America in
1731?
Matt
matt_combs@juno.com
http://members.aol.com/Mattccombs/index.html
Researching COMBS - LYONS - GROVES - WILSON from WV and MD
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From: BETTIKESMC@aol.com
To: matt_combs@juno.com
Cc: BETTIKESMC@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jackson County, WV Lookup
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 00:44:12 EDT
Message-ID: <dc5f56cb.35f2131c@aol.com>
In a message dated 9/5/98 6:43:27 PM EST, matt_combs@juno.com writes:
<<
Would it be possibly for you to do a census lookup for me? I am
interested
in William Henry COMBS from Jackson County. He is on the 1850 census
and I believe he is likely on the 1860, 1870, and 1880 census. He
should
also be on the 1890 Veteran's census if one exists. He died 26 Dec 1896
in Jackson County.
Thank you, Matt- matt_combs@juno.com >>
Hello Matt,
It is late and hopefully I can keep my eyes open long enought to type
the
two articles that appeared in the book, JACKSON COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA,
PAST
AND PRESENT - 1990, that appears in page 172. Every once in a while, we
hit
a gold mine, and I think you just did. <smile> Happy Hunting, Betty
First article;
HENRY CLAY COMBS
William Combs, a printer, came to America about 1731. His son, William
Henry Harrison Combs, also a printer, was once the employee of Benjamin
Franklin, married Mary Helen Murphy whose ancestors came from Belfast,
Ireland, the County of Down. Their son William Henry Combs born April
27,
1811 in Loudoun County, Virginia [died December 1896] married about 1832
in
Fauquier County, Virginia, a Sarah Susan Floweree, also known as Sallie;
Floweree is pronounced floray. She was born in Fauquier County,
Virginia.
They settled in Jackson County about 1836. Some of their children and
grandchildren settled in Jackson County and are buried in Mason and
Jackson
County.
Children:
Ariana Hanson Combs born April 17, 1834 in Fauquier County, Virginia
married
Joseph Bibee. Their children were Helen, Daniel, John, Anna, and Mrs.
Maggie
Bibee Sullivan. Mrs. Sullivan resided at Folsome, West Virginia and the
remainder of the children scattered over different states.
William Edgar Combs died in his 87th year [January 9, 1930]. He
married
Nancy Roach. Five children; Lily, Frances, William, John, Daniel.
Several
grandchildren are scattered throughout the state.
Daniel Combs drown in his 9th year during the Civil War while on a raft
with
a negro slave in the Ohio River.
Permisha C. Combs married John Pickens. Two children; William Floweree
Pickens, all died in Iowa. One granddaughter, Mrs. Hazel Sloan Hagerty,
Stanwood, Iowa, was in tough with Mrs. Mary Combs Williamson until her
death.
Contee Fairfax Combs was a Confederate soldier. He enlisted when he
was 16
years of age. He died in the war and we never knew where he was buried.
Sarah Susan Frances Combs, married Jacob Knight, both died at Hartford
city,
West Virginia. Five children: William, Nellie, and Daisy, Mrs. Susie
Knight
Turley at Hartford, and Lydia at Pittsburgh.
Lacey Ann Combs married Marion Crum. They had five children; Sallie
Crum
married William King of Cottageville, and she had two children. He later
married a Miss Sayre. William, Frank and Emma died unmarried. O. J.
Crum
married Annie Sayre, Cottageville. They had a large family.
Mary Helen Combs married Kinsey Prudens and they had several children.
John Combs died at the age of 25 years, unmarried.
Henry Clay Combs the subject of this sketch was born April 18, 1856 and
died
January 2, 1930. He is buried in Combs Cemetery in Union District, Mason
County, West Virginia. Born in Jackson County, he has many descendents
born
and raised in Mason County. Married Lanora Anis Sayre, daughter of M. G.
and
Mary Charlotte Parsons Sayre, granddaughter of Herbert Ezekiel Sayre. H.
C.
Combs and Lanora Combs had the following children: Mry Blanche, Edgar
Contee,
William Henry, Sarah Susan, Ulysses Grant, Rhoda AGness, Henry Clay, Jr.,
Hoit
Steve, and Roy Lesley Combs.
Mary Blanche Combs Williamson it the mother of Eugene Victor, Zara
Alicia,
Lannes Wilkinson Clay, Lydia Maxine, Ney Rene, Jerome Davidson [deceased
at
age three weeks], and Torres Aulaire.
Mary Blanche was a D.A.R. member and she spent her life doing work on
her
family history. It is because of her devotion to family history that we
have
so many records in our family.
Ida May Combs married James Armstrong. She is the last child of the
ancestor William Combs who immigrated to this country. Submitted by NR
Williamson, Jr.and T. A. Williamson.
Second article.
The following sketch is of the Jackson county Combs family. My great-
grandmother was Mary B. Combs Williamson, the daughter of Henry Clay
Combs.
My parents are Karl and Alice Click of Mount Alto. I have a brother,
Jason
Keith Click. Also, I am the granddaughter of Ney R. and Sylvia
Williamson and
Henry and Arrietta Knapp Click.
{Sallie} Saral Susan Floweree, born February 7, 1812, in Rectortown,
Fauquier County, Virginia, died in Mason County, West Virginia, December
26,
1896. She married William Henry Combs at Romney, Virginia, [now West
Virginia]. He was born April 27, 1811 in Fauquier County, Virginia, near
Hopewell Gap, in the Bull Run Mountains. He was a Confederate soldier
when he
was fifty years of age. He served in Company "B" Virginia Infantry.
Their
two oldest sons were also Confederate soldiers.
To Sallie and William combs were born twelve children as follows:
(1) Arianna Hanson Combs born 1833 in Fauquier County, Virginia, married
Joseph Bibbee in Jackson County, June 16, 1853.
(2) William Edgar Combs born 1834 in Jackson county, Virginia, Civil War
veteran 1861-1865, married Nancy Roach.
(3) Contee F. Combs, Confederate soldier, died in service, unmarried.
(4) Mary Helen Combs born 1836, married January 23, 1856 to Kinsey
Purden of
Jackson County, Virginia [now West Virginia].
(5) Lacy Ann Combs, married Martin L. Crum, January 201861.
(6) Pometia C. Combs, married John Pickens, both died in Iowa, two
children.
(7) Sallie Floweree Combs married Jacob Knight.
(8) Daniel F. Combs drown in Ohio River at age 9.
(9) John H. Combs unmarried age 22.
(10) Isabell Combs married John Price, one daughter living.
(11) Henry Clay Combs born April 18, 1856, married 1883, to Lenora Anise
Sayre, born February 9, 1860.
(12) Ida May Combs born 1858. submitted by Karen Click Phillips.
[There is a picture of Karla Renee Click in the book. Apparently the
submitter's name should have read, Karla Click Phillips]
If you still want the Combs family from the census records, just let me
know.
I would like to know how you fit into this family ? <grin>
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:31:31 EDT
From: Matthew C Combs x-x-x-x-x-xmatt_combs@juno.com "><matt_combs@juno.com >
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19980906.232553.2671.2.matt_combs@juno.com>
Subject: [COMBS-L] Re: Jackson County, WV Lookup
Forwarding more Jackson County, WV info.
Matt
matt_combs@juno.com
http://members.aol.com/Mattccombs/index.html
Researching COMBS - LYONS - GROVES - WILSON from WV and MD
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From: BETTIKESMC@aol.com
To: matt_combs@JUNO.COM
Cc: BETTIKESMC@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jackson County, WV Lookup
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 22:24:55 EDT
Message-ID: <56997efd.35f343f7@aol.com>
In a message dated 9/5/98 6:43:27 PM EST, matt_combs@juno.com writes:
<<
Would it be possibly for you to do a census lookup for me? I am
interested
in William Henry COMBS from Jackson County. He is on the 1850 census
and I believe he is likely on the 1860, 1870, and 1880 census. He
should
also be on the 1890 Veteran's census if one exists. He died 26 Dec 1896
in Jackson County.
>>
From the 1860 Jackson Co., WV census - one Combs family.
# 570-531
William H. Combs age 49 farmer born Va
Sarah age 46 born Va
Lucy A. age 20 born Va
Carter T. age 18 farm laborer born Va
W. Edgar age 15 born Va
Pamela age 13 born Va
John L. age 11 born Va
Sarah age 9 born Va
H. C. (male) age 7 born Va
Isabella age 5 born Va
Ida M. age 1 born Va
1870 Jackson County, WV census
# 168-168
William Edgar Combs age 25 farmer born Jackson Co. [son of William H.
&
Cara Combs]
Nancy A. age 26 born Va.
Lillian A. age 2 born Jackson Co.
Amanda Van Kirk age 11 domestic born Va
#286-286
William H. Combs age 59 farmer [Cottageville] born Va
Sarah S. C. age 56 born Va
John L. age 22 born Jackson Co.
Sarah F. age 18 born Jackson Co. [married Jacob Wright on 17 March
1874]
Henry C. age 16 born Jackson Co.
Isabella age 13 born Jackson Co.
Ida M. age 11 born Jackson Co.
1880 Jackson County, WV census
#251-252
William H. Combs age 69 farmer born Fauquier Co., Va. [Company B. 22nd
Va.
Inf.]
Sarah age 63 wife born Fauquier Co., Va
Henry C. age 25 son/field laborer born Fauquier Co., Va
Belle age 22 dau born Jackson Co.
Ida M. age 20 dau born Jackson Co.
William Smith age 5 indigent born WV
# 333-334
William Edgar Combs age 35 farm laborer born Jackson Co. [Co. B, 22nd
Va
Inf., son of William H. & Sarah S. C. Combs]
Nancy C. age 37 wife born WV
Lily A. age 12 dau born Jackson Co.
William age 11 born Jackson Co.
John age 7 son born Jackson Co.
Mary age 5 dau born Jackson Co.
Daniel age 2 son born Jackson Co.
This is all the Combs in the 1860-70, and 80 census.
Good hunting,
Betty
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:31:31 EDT
From: Matthew C Combs x-x-x-x-x-xmatt_combs@juno.com "><matt_combs@juno.com >
To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <19980906.232553.2671.3.matt_combs@juno.com>
Subject: [COMBS-L] Re: WV, Jackson County 1900, 1910 and 1920
Forwarding more Jackson County, WV info.
Matt
matt_combs@juno.com
http://members.aol.com/Mattccombs/index.html
Researching COMBS - LYONS - GROVES - WILSON from WV and MD
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From: BETTIKESMC@aol.com
To: matt_combs@juno.com
Cc: BETTIKESMC@aol.com
Subject: Re: Jackson County 1900, 1910 and 1920
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 22:52:32 EDT
Message-ID: <a17c254c.35f34a70@aol.com>
1900 Jackson Co. census - Ripley District: [I do not have all of the 1900
census]
277-281 Combs. William E. 54 Head Jul 1845 WV M-32 Farmer
Nancy 57 Wife Jun 1842 WV M-32 5/5
[father
born Maryland]
Daniel 22 son Mar 1878 WV Farm laborer
1910 Jackson Co. census:
101-102 Combs, William C. 39 M-1 M-20
Sarah A. 39 wife M-1 M-20 7/6
Mamie 19 dau
Charles C. 18 son m. 20 June 1920 JCMR
Verda
Shinn, age 22 of Evans, d/o Austin A. and Birtie Shinn
James 16 son
William 13 son
Cecil 7 son
Reuben 1.7 son
Ripley District:
17-17 Combs, William Edgar 65 M-41 s/o William H. and Sarah S.
C.
Combs. Edgar served in Co. B 22nd Va. Inf. William & Nancy are buried
in
Morgan Cemetery, Sidneyville
Nancy A. 67 wife M-41 5/5
Daniel F. 32 son
54-54 Dudgeon, Samuel D. 44 M-17 m. 4 June 1893 JCMR
Lillie (Combs) 41 wife M-17 7/7
Arnim (?) 16 son
Wilma 14 dau
Ellen 12 dau
Francis 10 son
Paul 7 son
Estelle 5 dau
Contee (?) 2 son
55-55 Combs, John Edward 36 M-14 m. 1 Sept 1895 JCMR
Lillie (Foreman) 32 wife M-14 7/7
Edgar 13 son
Beatrice 10 dau
Alta 8 dau
Floyd 8 son
Lena 6 dau
Louise 5 dau
Mattie 0.11 months dau
17-17 Combs William Edgar 65 head M-41 [s/o William H. & Sarah
S.
C. Combs. Edgar served in Co. B 22nd Va. Inf. William & Nancy are
buried
in Morgan Cemetery, Sidneyville]
Nancy A. 67 wife M-41 5/5
Daniel F. 32 son
54-54 Dudgeon Samuel D. 44 head JaxCo. M-17 [m. 4 June 1893
JCMR]
Lillie (Combs) 41 wife JaxCo. M-17 7/7
Arnim (?) 16 son
Wilma 14 dau
Ellen 12 dau
Francis 10 son
Paul 7 son
Estelle 5 dau
Contee (?) 2 son
55-55 Combs John Edward 36 head JaxCo. M-14 [m. 1 Sept 1895
JCMR]
Lillie (Foreman) 32 wife JaxCo. M-14 7/7
Edgar 13 son
Beatrice 10 dau
Alta 8 dau
Floyd 8 son
Lena 6 dau
Louise 5 dau
Mattie .11 months dau
Ravenswood District:
114-116 Curry, John H. 34 M-2 M-6 farme farm renter s/o Wilson
and
Lucy (Vannoy) Curry. John married (1) Kathryn Carpenter. John, age
27, m.
(2) 6 May 1904 JCMR Nellie V. Beymer, age 21, d/o W. H. and Amanda
(Hamilton)
Beymer
Nellie V. 27 wife M-1 M-6 5/4 parents
born
Ohio
Willie 12 son Willie, age 20 of
Sandyville,
m. 25 Dec 1919 JCMR Lillian E. Sarver, age 20 of Sandyville, d/o Lorenzo
D.
and Emma Sarver
Homer 10 son Homer, age 25 of
Sandyville, m. 6 Sept 1925 JCMR Jessie Combs, age 21 of Liverpool
Lucy 7 dau
Wilbur 5 son
Cecil 3 son
Velma 2 dau
Hazel 0.1 month dau
Union District:
101-102 Combs, William C. 39 M-1 M-20
Sarah A. 39 wife M-1 M-20 7/6
Mamie 19 dau
Charles C. 18 son m. 20 June 1920 JCMR
Verda
Shinn, age 22 of Evans, d/o Austin A. and Birtie Shinn
James 16 son
William 13 son
Cecil 7 son
Reuben 1.7 son
1920 Jackson Co. census - live on the Ripley to Sandyville Road:
# 152-152
William Combs age 75
Nancy age 77 wife
Union District - Cottageville Precinct
# 1-1
William C. Combs age 49
Sarah A. age 50 wife
Mamie age 29 dau
Charles C. age 27 son
James E. age 26 son
Cecil D. age 17 son
Reuben D. age 11 son
This is all the census that I have, but I have very little of the 1900
census copied.
Hope this helps.
Betty
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